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||§§||Stringendo
01-14-2010, 02:11 PM
Let's face the truth here - most gamers are assholes. This is evident when you join a MW2 lobby and half of the people have names that are sexually gratuitous, racist, or just plain stupid. Not to be funny, not to be clever (Hugh Jass, I'm talking to you) but to infuriate or cause reaction.

My problems aren't with idiocy. There's a mute button for a reason and killing "IPWNYOU111" is always fun. It's with behavior and conduct. There's no etiquette or decency at all. Since the internet is anonymous these people only need to switch their user names to avoid any guilt.

People can do whatever they want short of downloading an aimbot with no repercussions from any type of authority. This could be exploiting (care packages), harassing other players, which isn't limited to typing (friendly fire to be an asshole). There is no vote kick, no temporary bans, or any way to block playing with this player again.

I understand on the opposite end you can have a dictator-like admin banning and kicking people unfairly but a player can simply go somewhere else. In MW2, the player can back out and literally be thrown back into the same game.

I've recently started browsing a hacker forum and realized in MW2 has spawned probably the perfect environment for hackers to work. The community is large and enthusiastic about circumventing the latest patches and insuring they have some advantage over normal players. (There is a thread about getting your game replaced for free if you get banned).

These players think they're somehow "getting back" at IW for snubbing the PC community. Or for the most part, like I said, are just assholes. There are hacks (texture hacks) that VAC does not ban for (to my knowledge VAC only looks for Aimbot and wallhacking and I still see plenty of these guys). What happens after a year or so when MW2 is no longer a priority for IW and Steam? We'll just be playing Combat Arms.

Console gamers do not need dedicated servers but we do. It's simply too easy for assholes to hack or take the fun out of the game. IW and Steam can not battle these people on their own nor will they once they move on to their next cash cow.

||§§||Dr.H
01-14-2010, 03:56 PM
I agree, private servers are a necessity for online gaming community's so that they can play how they want and police themselves. The fact that IW doesn't see that is just another showing that their lead development team are console players or that money is all that matters to them even if the PC community were the people who gave them the money for years before they ever made a console game..

Hacker saying they cheat so they can get back at IW is a bunch of BS.. since IW doesn't give a crap about the PC users then why would they care more if we are getting slammed with hackers?? If you want to find a way to get back at IW then find a way to hack the hell out of the 360 online games not us.

For the PC this new nonserver console format has done the exact opposite of what they said it would, it removed all friendliness and curtusy of people who chose to join your server and replaced it with a bunch of random asshats who don't give a shit about anything other than getting a small high off of bugging people.

||§§|| Sven The Slayer
01-14-2010, 05:36 PM
I was playing today and had a guy on who was saying he was an xbox MW2 player who was using his friends steam account to play. He kept going on and on about how much better the PC version was. It's just a little something to be proud about but not much.

As for VAC. VAC doesn't check texture files. VAC only looks for KNOWN executable files in your ram. There is no screen shot option that PB uses to identify other hacks that cannot be detected any other way.

||§§||Stringendo
01-16-2010, 01:19 AM
Only good thing about consoles is how hard it is to cheat. You're literally playing with children and you know that's going to be annoying.

||§§|| Sven The Slayer
01-16-2010, 02:48 AM
Only good thing about consoles is how hard it is to cheat. You're literally playing with children and you know that's going to be annoying.

Actually hacks are starting to come out for consoles because they are basically dumbed down PCs at this point. There are several 360 hacks, at least for level hacks. It's just a mater of time before aim-bots and wall hacks find their way onto consoles.

||§§|| Sven The Slayer
01-16-2010, 02:55 PM
Apparently players with a cracked version of the game (console unlocked) have the ability to run console commands like changing the map at will. I had called in a nuke and the host was just like "no" and changed the bloody map... He also kept changing the map before the end of games so people would lose their bonus...

||§§||Dr.H
01-16-2010, 04:05 PM
That is freaking ridiculous. To be able to change things like that while not having a dedicated server is as good as cheating.